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hello and welcome to the show i'm martin

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willis your host and we have an

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interesting show for you this evening

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we have patrick jackson and

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stephen colburn and they have basically

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patrick's come up with a theory on what

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he thinks things are related

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all related and

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when it comes to some of the paranormal

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some people will argue that ufos are not

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paranormal because there's so much

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evidence

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that they're here

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that they're not exactly paranormal but

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anyway uh that's minor compared to uh

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i'm interested in just hearing what his

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thoughts are on what we may be seeing

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now he does a lot of work with orbs

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which may be different than your average

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ufo i'm not sure we'll be talking about

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all that

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in just a minute this week we have

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charles lear back with our blog and this

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weekend it's called when ufos were left

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to private investigators and there's a

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number of people including

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donald keyhole who you don't think of i

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guess he did some investigating after

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his years with the service in the

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military

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but anyway it's a great blog as usual so

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check that out

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and uh next week we have my friend lee

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spiegel will be on

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and we are good to go i'm going to bring

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in our guests starting with uh patrick

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jackson welcome to the show patrick

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hi how are you doing all right

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doing well thank you and glad to see you

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here and we're a little he's having a

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little trouble with this camera but at

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least he's here

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stephen how are you uh steven you're in

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oxnard california and patrick you're

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that's right uk

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and so patrick where where are you in

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the what part of the uk

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um do you live where do you live i'm in

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uh west london

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west london oh okay and i've heard a lot

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now i brought this up recently i think

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it was with philip mantle i said uh

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that some people tell me that

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a lot of there's not a lot of sightings

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in a lot of the uk because of the

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weather is that is that something you

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ever hear about or does it not matter

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they're everywhere

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um it's probably because it's so cloudy

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cloudy most of the time yeah so it's

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probably happening above the clouds

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but i think that just it's just as

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common here as it is anywhere else

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yes we don't see it as much because of

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the weather yeah because it's more

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dark and gray uh in our in you know

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generally uh but like right now we've

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got a really good summer so

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you know people will start seeing more

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about this time of year

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and as and steve and where you're at um

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is the number one place in the country

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where not not just because of the

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but uh because of there's a lot of

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really great weather out in california

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weather and probably because southern

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california here is a major ufo hot spot

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the uk is probably just as hot they just

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don't see them as much because of the

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clouds like patrick was saying and

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arizona is actually a big hot spot too

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in the hobby desert in general

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so patrick let's let's start on well

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first of all the name of your book uh

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put it out there if you would

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uh the name is quantum paranormal a 21st

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century analysis of the paranormal

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phenomena

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and what made you well first of all were

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so-called paranormal

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before you for a long time and and then

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you kind of put your study in that

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together is that how that happened

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powerful paranormal hotspot with um go

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send ufos kind of like being seen quite

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and i don't actually mean by big flying

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saucers flying over the place

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i mean i used to see these little balls

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of light flying over the uh the street

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lights a lot and i never knew what they

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were so i just used to watch them and

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but the paranormal is all well basically

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one day i was sitting there on the field

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i saw a guy dressed as a monk in the

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you know i just thought he was some

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crazy guy

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uh standing in the middle of the field

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and um so i started shouting abuse at

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him for a while

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of reaction so i pulled out my laser

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pointer and i put a laser right on his

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face or where his face would be um and

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what it was was like it's uh it looked

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like a monk with his hood up and a

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completely black face

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so i put the laser right on his face and

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it kind of reflected and but you

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big black mass

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bit so i just got up and started walking

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towards it because i actually just

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thought it was someone had dumped a

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like a statue in the middle of the field

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and i got within about 15 feet of it

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something like that

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and it just disappeared in front of me

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and i'd never seen anything like that

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before so i kind of like that's kind of

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like woke me up a bit i think you know

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that's that's interesting you know

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i said uh to the local villages in like

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the local pub and i said to them um like

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a week later i just said

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i think i saw like a look like a monk

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across the field or something you know

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and they go oh yeah that's the mad monk

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he haunts here

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and i was like

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what's that you know so i never said

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that before and um and that kind of got

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me into it i i was like well

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people dismiss

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ghosts and stuff but when you actually

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see it for a long period of time with

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your own eyes and also you shine lasers

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on it and stuff like that

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that's when it kind of gets interesting

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and that's what uh that got me into it

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yeah so fast forward a bit longer is is

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so after that i basically started

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watching all the paranormal tv shows uh

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everything from the us and here in the

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for years and uh but nothing really

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gelled with me

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um it all just didn't make sense to me

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you know um they say like a spirit came

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back from the dead or a guy from 400

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years ago was haunting the place or

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something like that i know none of it

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really gelled with me none of it made

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any sense

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and it kept on bugging me for a long

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i decided to really make a go of it and

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see if i could figure it out

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um so basically my day job is um i'm a

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database guy i work in

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processes and reverse engineering

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how that generally works is is a

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developer will turn up for the company

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develop a load of good stuff and then

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he'll leave and no one knows how it

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works so someone like me would have to

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come along and figure it all out and

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document it so the company can then

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replicate it or modify it or do whatever

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and this is this is nothing special in

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it this is what a lot of people do the

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only difference is is that i use the

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same kind of uh meant the same

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uh on the paranormal and that's what i

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i basically rented out a place called 30

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which is uh said to be the most violent

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um because i wanted to figure out what

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party guys were

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i was in there and i had some ideas but

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none of it really made sense and after a

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in there all my theories were completely

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so i was like i had to start from from

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scratch again

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but what i had the whole thing filmed

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i finally got i finally got hold of this

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image and when i looked at it and i put

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it came out as a small silver ball

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and i was like that looks familiar and i

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realized that that's the same thing as i

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used to see growing up uh flying over my

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village

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and then once i saw this small silver

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sphere in the in the building

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i looked at its behavior patterns

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and then i realized that the behavior

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patterns in in the

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in these haunted houses

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aren't human at all

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that they're actually process driven

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it's computer-like

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so the same thing keeps happening each

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time the same door will keep banging

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you'll see the same processes

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replicating around around the world

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and when i when i saw that it was like

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what's going on there you know

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of study

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the pilots saw during world war ii

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which was the foo fighters

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and then i realized after a bit more

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digging that there's three variants of

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the foo fighters

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there's type one two and three which how

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so the type ones operate at a hundred

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thousand feet that's seen from the iss

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they're seen from the by the u.s navy

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um they're seen

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by commercial airliners they're seen all

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and they operate in swarms and clusters

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they intercept external groups and

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so they intercept um

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other ufos

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other other flying sources other craft

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and how they do this is through a very

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particular type of mechanism

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so what happens is is that there's three

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types you have type one two and three

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that the type one's also up there the

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type twos are smaller they're about the

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size of a um

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or a football or yeah about a football

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uh like the betsair was that's that was

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a type two

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and what they do is they are they

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operate in areas such as woodlands or

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areas of harsh environments so up

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mountains uh woodlands

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jungle uh middle of the ocean kind of

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thing and then you have to type threes

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which are the smaller variants and

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they're about the size of a baseball and

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they operate in buildings and they are

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the root cause of poltergeist activity

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so how it works is this when the type

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ones are up in the atmosphere and they

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detect something in the atmosphere they

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can't signal each other because if they

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do

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the one in the middle will detect them

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so what they do is they do a signal

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redirect down to the ground

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and so what they do is that they signal

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down

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the type uh threes and buildings the

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type tree will come online

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and then what will happen is it will

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start emitting gamma rays and microwaves

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and that's why people start feeling sick

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and they start fainting in haunted

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houses they get headaches and they feel

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nauseous because it's low-level

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radiation poisoning

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they use a thing called burst relaying

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um protocol

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so if you if you um

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if you look at all the haunted houses in

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the uk and map them you'll notice that

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they operate in lines and clusters

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which means that it mimics or very

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similar to our own microwave-based

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communication networks

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so what they do is they signal down and

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signal back up again and then what

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happens is once

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that data link is established they can

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then triangulate on the objects surround

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it and intercept it

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before being detected

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and then once the whole process is up

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and down

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it will then shut down

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so but while this this

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transmission is occurring because of the

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high energy emissions it will cause

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diversions to move people away

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so it will bang the door downstairs like

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in 30 years drive

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the

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downstairs

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so everybody in the house rushes down to

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the coal shed door

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but if you actually look at the map of

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the house it's actually the most

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shielded part of the house

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so if you're missing gamma rays and

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microwaves it's the most safest part of

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the building to be in because the walls

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would absorb all the emissions

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so what they tried to do is that they

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move people away from high energy

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emissions and this behavior is

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replicated time and time again in all

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these haunted houses and all the haunt

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all these uh poltergeist footage is

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where people have been dragged away or

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been held in positions

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um and it's because

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it's that they're trying to keep people

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out of the way of high energy emissions

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it's that

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simple and so this is why poltergeist

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activity

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is so intermittent because it's a

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transponder it comes online does its

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thing and then shuts down

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so something will happen on a monday and

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then nothing for a week

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and it'll happen again

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it doesn't matter what you do or what

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you say or how much you coax it nothing

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will happen until it comes online again

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and that's what's happened and this has

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actually been proven recently

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by one of um

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brandon's uh

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brandon's guys a guy called jim

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he put a load of gamma-ray and

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and microwave detectors

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in

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and guess what he detected

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ray and microwave birth are you talking

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about screenwalker

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uh he is one of his one of his guys i

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think it's something to do with the

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basins

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uh one of one of those buildings but he

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put a load of sensors in in a group of

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buildings and he was picking up gamma

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ray and microwave bursts

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which is exactly how i modeled it

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now when you were talking about the

403
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triangulation and the orbs and all that

404
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you seem pretty confident that you

405
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that this is what is happening how do

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you how do you know this is what's

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really happening

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because there's video of it

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there's um there's images from it from

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the pentagon

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there's images from 1950s

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all you have to do is get the image and

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boost it up a little bit with contrast

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and lower down the the

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brightness and you can see them

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so uh

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you had some of these things on your

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facebook page is that is that

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is that what you're talking about

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but before i do that

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i should ask our other guests

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um steve

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uh basically

424
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what what got you interested in this

425
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topic to begin with and how did you

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connect with patrick

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well i've always been interested in the

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topic and um

429
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i got into uh being a ufo um an

430
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abduction researcher in a major way

431
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about

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around

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2008 when um

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i'm an experiencer myself and the aliens

435
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put out an

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uh

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an implant in my left second toe and i

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went to

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talk to dr lear about it and we ended up

440
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becoming partners and he took the object

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out and um

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i analyzed it with some uh state of the

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art instrumentation i had at my work at

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that time

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and um so i've been a a

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researcher of the subject ever since and

447
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i um heard about patrick's work and

448
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thought it was very interesting and uh

449
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sorry and steve actually um he uh did a

450
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material analysis on one of the fears

451
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that crashed four years ago

452
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yeah i've yeah i've i've got uh analysis

453
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of several uh implants that dr lear

454
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removed from his patients including my

455
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own and

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i have a piece of um a sphere that uh

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patrick is calling a type one

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that crashed in mexico back around

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around uh 2000 that uh massan got a hold

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of

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and it turned out to be a very

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interesting piece of technology it's a

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it's a titanium alloy but it's got um

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nanomaterials embedded in the metal

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including carbon nanotubes

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and

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it also had voids deliberately

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introduced into the metal to lower the

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density and it's incredibly strong stuff

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it was very hard to cut and the only

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reason i was able to cut a piece off i

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think is because um

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parts of it were damaged by heat from

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the crash um

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it apparently had an electromagnetic

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field around it that was really strong

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and it collapsed when the object crashed

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and

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most of the heat was dumped into the

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poles of the sphere and vaporized some

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of the metal and the um the area around

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the areas that were vaporized were

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damaged by heat and lowered the strength

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a bit so i was able to get a piece off

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for analysis

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and um

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uh

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massan said that um the

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rancher that um that witnessed the crash

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that it killed a cow under the blast

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killed a cow 100 meters away

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so there's an incredible amount of

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energy in these things when they're um

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charged up and uh flying

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um is any of those the images of what

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you're talking about

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in on the facebook page available to to

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see

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yes yeah um

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so yeah i i can i i have the uh the

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report on the um the object and uh

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you're welcome to have a copy

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yeah that's on the facebook page as well

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and

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as far as uh

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you know you you talk about this crashed

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piece and all that and also your uh the

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topic has come to come up on the show

509
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before with what happened to roger

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lear's

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you know uh implants that he removed

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supposedly removed and where are they

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now are and what type of testing has

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been done on them you're familiar with

515
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all that

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oh yeah i've analyzed um i've analyzed

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about five of the

518
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objects and and what do what what do you

519
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know about them

520
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they're sophisticated pieces of

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nanotechnology uh they're they're a lot

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like the um like the sphere

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sample they have their metal with um

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with nanotechnology built into the metal

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and um

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uh they they give off radio frequencies

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and they they're self-powering

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apparently they connect to the nervous

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system they have they have

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apparently enzymes in the

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enzyme or some chemical cue in the

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surface of the metal that allows

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or causes

534
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proprioceptor nerves to grow into the

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objects

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and they develop a very tough

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outer membrane

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that um

539
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apparently acts as the uh the interface

540
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between the electronics and the device

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and the nervous system

542
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and um they're in my opinion way beyond

543
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now they're also made of meteoric iron

544
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or or all the ones i've analyzed have a

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certain percentage of meteoric iron some

546
00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:17,600
are pure meteoric iron some are a

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percentage

548
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yeah so um they're off planet apparently

549
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:24,799
well yeah i mean i've i've heard of

550
00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:27,840
these things but i've never really seen

551
00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:30,000
um you know any reports on them or

552
00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:31,840
anything like that so is there anything

553
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:34,080
here we can take a look at

554
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that uh in particular either one of you

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can answer uh

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i don't know if there's

557
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i'm just going through all these images

558
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so if you stop there and see the one

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second from the left

560
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if i can

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00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:51,440
are you talking about

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this one right here with a bunch of

563
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images

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so that's the one in the 30s drive

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that's the type three it's about the

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size of a um

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as a of a baseball uh there's a lower

568
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:03,200
picture there and that's the same thing

569
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:05,280
in a field which also create crop

570
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:09,919
circles oh yes uh that's one i've seen

571
00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:12,240
that's the one on the next to it on the

572
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:14,320
right

573
00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:16,400
this one is something to do with um the

574
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:18,320
one that went into the water off of the

575
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:20,799
omaha or something like that yeah it's

576
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,440
the same object as you just saw um it's

577
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:25,520
a type three so it's hovering next next

578
00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:28,720
to the uh the ship

579
00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:31,360
okay and

580
00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:34,960
let's see uh so i'm just scrolling

581
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:38,640
through these and taking a look

582
00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:39,520
and

583
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:41,280
it looks like well there's a lot of

584
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:43,760
images but you i still did see a couple

585
00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:45,760
things of that i recognize

586
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:47,280
i just i just saw the sphere that i got

587
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:49,679
a sample of uh down below

588
00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:53,280
okay tell me where where i go keep going

589
00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:55,200
yeah keep it and um i will have this in

590
00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:56,799
the show notes for those of you that are

591
00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:03,110
going keep going

592
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:04,159
okay

593
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:05,440
uh

594
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:07,200
thanks for going it's almost there i

595
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,080
think

596
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,640
there it is there it is the gray metal

597
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:11,919
sphere

598
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:21,430
and where was that where was that found

599
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:23,840
that was found uh about a hundred miles

600
00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:26,640
south of the u.s border um uh

601
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:28,480
closest to u.s town was brownsville

602
00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:32,240
texas on the um east coast of mexico

603
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:33,360
okay

604
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,280
and now if you if you go up you'll see

605
00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:37,200
the zero analysis of that if you go keep

606
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:45,270
all the way up uh but i'm wondering why

607
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:47,919
you have this da vinci painting here

608
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:51,200
so to see is um if you look at them uh

609
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:54,080
say the second image from the left

610
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:54,960
on the

611
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:57,760
you see the spheres would up up up up

612
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:00,080
this one right here yeah can i control

613
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,960
the mouse at all or this one here

614
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:04,559
you're talking about

615
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:05,600
uh

616
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:10,000
no unfortunately not

617
00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:11,440
okay so

618
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:12,720
uh if you

619
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:18,950
if you if you go up up a bit

620
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:20,880
yeah see the one on the left next to

621
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,600
note down a bit you see the one

622
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:25,520
where you see the flying saucer

623
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,520
top left

624
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,000
okay oh this one you're talking about

625
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,640
right here that one yeah so what you see

626
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:34,720
is a is a three c is surrounding it like

627
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:35,600
this

628
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:39,600
triangulation process so what happens is

629
00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:42,240
is in this in this um configuration the

630
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:44,159
craft has nowhere to go because it can't

631
00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:45,679
get away in this once once it's

632
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,360
information

633
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:49,919
this can't escape weapons lock so

634
00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:51,600
basically these will surround it and

635
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:54,159
then fire all at once and the craft will

636
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:57,039
be atomized and then if you close this

637
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:58,880
one

638
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:01,120
some uh some ufos presumably belonging

639
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,559
to a different species actually launch

640
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:04,559
these uh these orbs too

641
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:07,679
yeah and also remy masana's film of

642
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:10,080
hundreds of these type one uh orbs

643
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,880
docking with uh snake-like um

644
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:14,080
uh

645
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:15,919
bases or whatever you wanna call it

646
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:17,360
about a hundred thousand feet altitude

647
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:18,640
so high up you can't see them from the

648
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,799
ground yeah stop there go back up that

649
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,559
down

650
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:24,640
i'm just i'm just looking real quickly

651
00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:27,200
here okay and uh i will because uh these

652
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:30,559
right here i wanted to know uh what

653
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:33,360
what's what's the story

654
00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:35,280
um well if there's a better picture than

655
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,400
that but

656
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:38,640
in a nutshell um

657
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:40,159
i'll show you

658
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:41,840
close that

659
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:43,200
this one here you see the one next to it

660
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:45,360
on the right that's it so the top one

661
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,279
here is the one in 30 years drive it's a

662
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:49,039
the type 3 which

663
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,559
by the size of a baseball this one here

664
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,120
is a bet sphere one below the one below

665
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:55,120
that is the one steve um

666
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:57,520
tested and this one here setting up set

667
00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:59,600
outside the vatican

668
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:01,039
so it appears

669
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:03,520
it appears that i mean this is a um

670
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,559
sculpture

671
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:06,480
and it appears to be the same thing as

672
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,120
the spheres that we are we're testing on

673
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:11,840
oh i see yeah these are these all here

674
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,400
are in uh italian sculpt sculptures

675
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:16,480
that's right yeah

676
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:18,480
the one i analyzed was titanium alloy

677
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:20,320
with uh a lot of nanotechnology and at

678
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:21,919
the bet sphere there's some other uh

679
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:24,799
very high density material

680
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:27,679
yeah okay and and i just i did ask uh

681
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:29,520
what what why do you have this

682
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:31,440
particular painting

683
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,880
so if you're looking if you look in the

684
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:35,039
uh the series holding in his hand

685
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:37,440
right you'll see there's three lights

686
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:39,120
oh yeah that's that's a reflection and

687
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:41,919
by the way this this painting was 83

688
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,159
restored so everything you see in this

689
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:46,720
painting 80 over 80 percent of it is new

690
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:49,360
paint um yeah i know who the restorer

691
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:50,720
was and everything

692
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,520
but if you look at the next image along

693
00:24:58,149 --> 00:24:55,440
it match that configuration of the

694
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,159
lights that the that one there

695
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,240
this one here the one down there yeah

696
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:02,480
that's the intercept process that's what

697
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,840
they look like when they're intercepting

698
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:05,200
other targets

699
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:07,120
which looks exactly the same with what's

700
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:08,559
in the uh

701
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:10,720
what's in the ball

702
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,240
i see the reflection on the ball but

703
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,640
that yeah well

704
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:16,000
okay

705
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:17,760
similar yeah

706
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:20,400
all right so anyway we can get back to i

707
00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:21,840
see you have a lot of things that look

708
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:24,080
pretty familiar um

709
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:25,200
through here

710
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:26,799
uh different

711
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:28,320
ones that i've seen but what is in

712
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:30,400
particular what is this right here

713
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,080
that's another one another sample that

714
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,799
we're testing uh we can't talk too much

715
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:36,159
about that one there's there's a lot of

716
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:37,200
stuff going on with that in the

717
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:38,240
background

718
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:39,840
but that's uh that's actually one that's

719
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,120
intact

720
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,440
and it's still semi-active

721
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:45,840
so you're saying that this

722
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:47,919
well let's get back to

723
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,320
um steve what you said that you took a

724
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,480
piece of and how

725
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:54,559
how did you take

726
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:56,320
how did you actually remove a piece from

727
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:57,600
this and why didn't you just take the

728
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:59,279
whole thing

729
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:00,799
well it belongs to jaime massan he

730
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:02,320
didn't want us he didn't want to part

731
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:04,640
with the whole thing but he he consented

732
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,000
to give me a piece for analysis and um

733
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:10,480
uh a colleague and i cut a piece off of

734
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:11,919
it with a

735
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:14,080
dremel moto tool with a silicon carbide

736
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:15,520
disc

737
00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:16,640
and um

738
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:17,679
i don't think that even would have

739
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:19,679
scratched it if um uh it hadn't been

740
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,840
damaged by heat though the edges of the

741
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,520
metal around there were where i took the

742
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,039
sample and those are definitely damaged

743
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:26,880
by heat

744
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:28,480
the rest of the metal i'd estimate was

745
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,559
at least uh three or four times stronger

746
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:32,320
than that area

747
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:33,520
um

748
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,000
it was so strong that uh carbide would

749
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,559
barely scratch it and

750
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,640
we actually had another an implant from

751
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,320
patient 16 and

752
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:43,919
dr lear's

753
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:46,640
project that was made of a material that

754
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:47,760
um

755
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:50,000
was an iron alloy reinforced carbon

756
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,760
nanotubes that was so strong that even

757
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,520
diamond tools wouldn't cut it we had to

758
00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:54,960
use a high energy laser to cut it in

759
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:02,630
well that's interesting so um so once

760
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:03,600
you take

761
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:05,440
it just seems to me like a couple of

762
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,880
different things

763
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:08,960
and i want to ask you uh maybe i'll

764
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:11,279
start with you patrick on this

765
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,400
um

766
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,640
so the the sphere that i brought up just

767
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:16,159
whoops i don't know that came went up by

768
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:18,720
accident the sphere that

769
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:21,600
came up uh that you said you can't talk

770
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,559
about i just headed up and

771
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:26,720
what is the particular reason

772
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,200
why you can't talk about that right now

773
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,960
you say you're doing some work on it is

774
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:31,840
there

775
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:32,799
yeah

776
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,919
uh what can you tell us about it

777
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,360
um it's a real thing and it's

778
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:39,360
semi-active

779
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:44,399
it rolls around all day on its own it's

780
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,159
basically the best sphere 2.0

781
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:50,880
and so do you have like if this thing is

782
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,279
rolling around where is it kept is it

783
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:55,039
kept by

784
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:57,120
um someone that doesn't want to show it

785
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:59,440
to other people or or

786
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:01,440
something like that yeah yeah

787
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,120
as i say there's there's a lot of stuff

788
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:05,440
going on in the background with it

789
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:06,640
but that that's going to be coming out

790
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:08,320
in the next few months

791
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:11,440
okay so if this thing really was

792
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,320
some alien type technology

793
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:16,880
it kind of would put a lot of things

794
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:19,120
to bed wouldn't it you know as far as

795
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,039
the debate of

796
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,520
uh things coming here or not and and all

797
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:25,120
that i mean this seems like it could be

798
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:26,399
something

799
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,520
really major if this was the case

800
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,360
and change everything if this was the

801
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:33,039
case and so

802
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:34,799
i guess a couple of questions i have for

803
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:35,600
you

804
00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:37,679
is um

805
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:40,480
it's not in government hands right

806
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:41,600
no

807
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:43,039
and is there

808
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:45,919
is this person working exclusively with

809
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,080
anyone that can get the word

810
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:50,880
out there if the thing really

811
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,679
ends up being something spectacular

812
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:55,760
yeah they're working with me so if i

813
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:58,320
have the exclusive access to it and how

814
00:29:01,510 --> 00:29:00,240
would you like if all right let's just

815
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:01,520
say

816
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:04,000
let's just run a scenario let's

817
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:05,919
say this thing did

818
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:09,279
incredible things it would uh it was uh

819
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:10,480
intelligent

820
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:14,000
uh and could maneuver on its own or

821
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:15,840
whatever and

822
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,640
uh you actually have it captured and

823
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,320
wherever it is and it's not going to get

824
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:22,399
away

825
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,559
how would you get the word out

826
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,159
who would you get the word out to if

827
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:28,559
this is the case if this thing somehow

828
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:30,720
seemed to be off planet an off-planet

829
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:32,880
type of thing how would you get the word

830
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,200
out there to the world

831
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:37,440
uh the media there's a lot there's quite

832
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:38,960
a few media who are interested in this

833
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:41,279
already

834
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:43,120
and how long has this thing been known

835
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:44,799
about in and

836
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:47,440
what country is it in

837
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,120
it's been known about for a little while

838
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:51,840
uh but i can't say where it is

839
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,360
but as i say you will find out soon

840
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:55,679
because it's it's just uh it's in

841
00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:58,240
progress so you'll find out soon

842
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:00,320
all right and um

843
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:01,679
can you tell me

844
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:04,640
what type of uh science is there

845
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:06,880
would there be access like for instance

846
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,279
if we talked off air and i said hey look

847
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,360
i've got this great scientist guy that

848
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:13,279
works with metal and

849
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:16,640
and metallurgy and and all that and

850
00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:19,120
uh because i actually do have uh access

851
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:21,840
to some some people like this that would

852
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,240
be very interested is this something

853
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,159
that could be observed

854
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:28,320
by someone in the science field

855
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:30,000
yes and that's been arranged

856
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,039
yeah

857
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:33,360
it could be arranged no it has been

858
00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:37,039
arranged it is being arranged

859
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:39,679
okay um all right well i'd i'd be

860
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:42,320
interested to to know more about that as

861
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,559
yeah as as of course you know anytime

862
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:46,559
you say you can't talk about something

863
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,320
that's all the email you're going to get

864
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:50,720
and myself is okay everyone wants to

865
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,080
know why you can't talk about it and

866
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:54,159
what is it

867
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,840
well that's the way it works yeah i'm

868
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:57,840
afraid that's where it works is if you

869
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:59,519
want something properly tested it has to

870
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:01,039
be done quietly

871
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:03,679
um you can't be done really in the media

872
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,440
now have you physically seen this

873
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,360
yourself or have you seen it

874
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:09,600
you have physically seen this yeah yeah

875
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:11,120
in fact i've seen quite a few spheres

876
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:13,200
and throughout my research

877
00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:15,279
um in buildings

878
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:17,679
personally and outside

879
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:19,519
so i've seen quite a few

880
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:21,600
there are several crash spears that uh

881
00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:22,720
are

882
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:25,279
in private hands right now that

883
00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:26,720
might be bought for the right price as

884
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:28,640
well here

885
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:31,200
yeah well hey look if something was

886
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:33,120
could be proven that it was off planet

887
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,080
um their price could be whatever

888
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:38,240
someone puts on it you know that because

889
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:40,000
that would change everything

890
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,200
so uh i i guess i would

891
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:45,279
like to say to you if that's so is that

892
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:46,799
something you know the whereabouts and

893
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:49,039
all that

894
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:50,960
yeah i know where it is yeah

895
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,480
um is it for sale no

896
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:56,399
yeah

897
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:57,919
but i'm i'm talking to you stephen you

898
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:59,519
say you know where these things are you

899
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:01,519
know where some things are

900
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:03,679
or you just i i i used to know where a

901
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:05,120
couple of them were i could find out

902
00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:06,000
again

903
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,559
if they're still available but um they

904
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:10,240
apparently uh

905
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,559
fall out of the sky on a fairly regular

906
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:15,120
basis and and i have reason to believe

907
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:16,159
that at least two or three are in

908
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:17,519
private hands besides the one that

909
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:23,590
okay here's a question here

910
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:26,320
uh mary grace wants to know do these

911
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:30,640
does the active sphere make any sound

912
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:33,200
uh no but it does vibrate a lot

913
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:35,600
it vibrates and

914
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:39,039
and uh all right so i saw when i showed

915
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:41,360
the picture of it i showed it being on a

916
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:42,880
stand

917
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:44,720
and uh let me see if i can bring that

918
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:47,200
back up uh

919
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:48,960
i i saw it being in a stand when you

920
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:51,120
when the thing is put on the

921
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,880
on the ground this isn't the thing

922
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:54,559
anyway here but when it's put on the

923
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:58,000
ground does it supposedly

924
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:59,519
do anything

925
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:00,880
that one does not

926
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:03,279
that one stone is not active anymore no

927
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:04,960
i'm sorry i meant to put up the other

928
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:05,760
one

929
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,080
it's uh it's on some it looks like a

930
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:13,919
plant holder or something a plant pot

931
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:16,399
holder when it's put on the ground what

932
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:17,679
happens

933
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:20,159
it rolls around all day

934
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:22,399
right so this right here it rolls around

935
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:24,480
all day and what about

936
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:25,840
um any

937
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:28,320
readings off of it on the outside

938
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:31,519
yeah it makes gamma rays

939
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:34,240
it's uh gamma rays

940
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,840
uh dangerous

941
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:38,799
is but it's much higher than background

942
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:41,039
not radiation

943
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:44,559
okay um any any other type of readings

944
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:45,519
um

945
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,120
this but it might be microwaves coming

946
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,960
from we need to do more testing on this

947
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:50,640
one and that's what we're setting up

948
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:51,760
soon

949
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:52,559
all right

950
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,080
i'd be surprised if it's not giving off

951
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:56,880
microwaves and rf at some level

952
00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:58,000
probably

953
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:00,080
yeah something like this uh you would

954
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:02,320
expect um if it flew at one time it

955
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:03,840
would fly again

956
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:06,720
the thing just sits there on that stand

957
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:10,000
uh well the thing is is that um

958
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:12,159
this one is not damaged

959
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:14,639
it appears it's just not online

960
00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:16,960
so technically with the right signal it

961
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:20,079
could come back online

962
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:21,040
okay

963
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:22,879
um maybe maybe the aliens are just

964
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:25,280
allowing them to possess it uh for for a

965
00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:26,879
while for some reason best known to

966
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:28,639
themselves

967
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:30,960
yeah i would think so steve you you

968
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:33,119
pretty much think that whatever this is

969
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:34,879
is is aliens

970
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:36,879
most likely yeah

971
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:39,520
and uh what are your thoughts as well

972
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,200
uh patrick

973
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:43,440
oh it's completely yeah

974
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:46,320
completely detect that the the abilities

975
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:47,359
that the ones that happen in the

976
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,839
buildings are is uh amazing they can

977
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:51,839
perform a thing called quantum tunneling

978
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:54,240
which was witnessed during world war two

979
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:55,760
so what will happen is is that uh

980
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:57,280
because the air crews saw the bigger

981
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:59,440
variants of these during world war two

982
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:01,040
uh and they used to appear outside the

983
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,480
aircraft and then fly inside the

984
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:04,640
aircraft and then fly around through

985
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:06,240
they go right through walls very easily

986
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:07,280
yeah they can go right through walls

987
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:08,960
it's called tunneling

988
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:11,359
and that's what they can perform uh and

989
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:13,520
that's uh we can only do that on a small

990
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,880
scale in in the lab um but these things

991
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,480
can have perfected it

992
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:20,320
uh and they can they as i said they

993
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:21,760
operate in buildings they can pass

994
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:25,599
through pretty much anything they want

995
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:26,960
john

996
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:30,480
experiments have seen the effect

997
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:33,040
and i would imagine the government's uh

998
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:36,480
seeing it extensively in their labs

999
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,109
aliens that is

1000
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:45,910
a lot of times i've seen like light orbs

1001
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:48,800
or people talk about light orbs but i'm

1002
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:50,240
i'm hearing you talk quite a bit about

1003
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:52,720
the silver metallic

1004
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:56,160
type um how often are people i i don't

1005
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:57,760
know myself i guess i'm asking the

1006
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:58,720
question

1007
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:01,359
is how often are people do people seem

1008
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:03,280
to be talking about these

1009
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:04,720
so the light is a byproduct of the

1010
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:07,040
propulsion system so where you have the

1011
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:08,160
high energy

1012
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:12,880
is interacting with our gas environment

1013
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:14,000
uh

1014
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:15,920
basically creating photons it stimulates

1015
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:18,240
the gas molecules creating photons which

1016
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:19,280
is light

1017
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:20,960
which is the same process of that of

1018
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:22,240
lightning

1019
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,320
so depending on how either how high the

1020
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,480
drive is it can either look metallic or

1021
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,320
it can glow red or

1022
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:30,640
orange or yellow or white depending on

1023
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:33,200
depending on the frequency and the gases

1024
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:35,119
is passing through at the time you will

1025
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:36,400
look different colors but they're all

1026
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:38,960
atomic colors

1027
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,720
and so are you saying like i've heard

1028
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:44,400
people suggest

1029
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,000
that uh certain vibration things can

1030
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,079
possibly go through walls things like

1031
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:52,320
that so is that kind of along the same

1032
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:53,599
line is which

1033
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:56,560
what you're talking about

1034
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:59,200
like it's a frequency vibration

1035
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:00,720
uh no

1036
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:03,680
a very particular process isn't it's uh

1037
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:04,640
i don't think anything to do with

1038
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:07,119
vibrations it's a very particular atomic

1039
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,880
process

1040
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:10,560
i'm not sure the details of how to do it

1041
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:12,640
but it's probably a combination of very

1042
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:13,920
high

1043
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:16,400
electric fields and certain frequencies

1044
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,440
as well that cause it to do that

1045
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:21,040
the the atoms i think are being moved

1046
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:22,880
aside slightly in floor space and it

1047
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:25,359
renders the the material um

1048
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:26,400
uh

1049
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:31,839
liquid in our dimension

1050
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,079
so that the object can pass through it

1051
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,640
okay well um

1052
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:39,920
so

1053
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:42,560
the the thing i guess that i'm

1054
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:45,920
uh well interested in the most is that

1055
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:47,119
there's

1056
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:49,280
some type of object that's in someone's

1057
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,760
hands i i can't get that out of my head

1058
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:53,040
as we're doing this

1059
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:54,640
uh talk that

1060
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:57,440
um and that it was can you describe how

1061
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:00,400
that was found at least and and

1062
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:03,200
how this person obtained that and why

1063
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:05,839
did he did he see this thing flying and

1064
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:09,520
somehow it crashed or what happened

1065
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:11,920
so the story is is that um

1066
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:13,520
many years ago

1067
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:14,480
a

1068
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:19,359
ufo hovering over his property

1069
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:20,880
and he scared the family so much they

1070
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:22,240
locked themselves in the in the house

1071
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:23,440
for two days

1072
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:25,280
and when they came out when they came

1073
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:26,079
out

1074
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:27,599
all these silver seers were all over the

1075
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,680
property i think it's like a dozen of

1076
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:31,040
them

1077
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:31,839
so

1078
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,720
one the farmer gave one of these spheres

1079
00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:36,240
to the guy i know

1080
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:39,040
uh and i think he sold the other ones to

1081
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:40,560
the military

1082
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:42,800
so that's what happened and basically

1083
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:44,320
it's been left in his shed for the last

1084
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:46,640
30 odd years

1085
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:49,680
he's i is this speculation that he sold

1086
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,160
them to the military or did he say that

1087
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:54,480
he sold him to the military no it's a

1088
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:56,480
it's probably a logical conclusion that

1089
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:57,920
he did

1090
00:39:01,270 --> 00:39:00,079
because he came back in a hurry trying

1091
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:01,280
to get the

1092
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,040
the one that he gave away

1093
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:05,040
uh he wanted that one back

1094
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,560
and so the only reason why he would do

1095
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:07,920
that is if he was offered a big price

1096
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:13,030
okay um so we don't know where the other

1097
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,550
yeah

1098
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:20,160
okay uh

1099
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,880
well this is all interesting and i uh i

1100
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,200
guess i would have to ask you to

1101
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:27,119
you know please do follow up with me if

1102
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,640
anything happens

1103
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:30,800
along these lines you know with this

1104
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,240
thing being

1105
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:34,560
uh you know tested and

1106
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,240
and all yeah

1107
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:38,079
you know i mean it would

1108
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:40,000
totally make the difference

1109
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:41,280
uh in

1110
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,839
basically and what everybody is

1111
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:45,680
you know the debates out there whether

1112
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:48,320
we're being visit visited or not in this

1113
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:50,000
uh if this was

1114
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,240
something that was actually off world

1115
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:54,000
and could be proven it was off world

1116
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:57,760
then you know you would have um

1117
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:58,720
the most

1118
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:01,119
significant find ever

1119
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:02,400
by the

1120
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:05,520
men you know our species really i mean

1121
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:07,119
if you think about it

1122
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,040
well according according to what i can

1123
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,480
tell um

1124
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:12,240
the see the type ones only sequel down

1125
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,680
to the type threes

1126
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:16,000
when there's intercepts occurring

1127
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:18,000
uh which when you look at the actual

1128
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:19,520
patterns in the houses

1129
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:21,200
it means that they're coming online at

1130
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:23,200
least once or twice a week

1131
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:24,560
which means that the intercepts are

1132
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,390
once or twice a week

1133
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,510
and and and where exactly are

1134
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,440
all over the world

1135
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:39,440
and let me ask you this i think of this

1136
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:46,069
why why us if there's intelligent life

1137
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,440
all through the

1138
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:49,680
you know the galaxy through the universe

1139
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,400
uh why would it bother with us if life

1140
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:54,640
is everywhere

1141
00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:56,079
if that's well there's a problem there's

1142
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:58,480
a problem in genetics for synergy

1143
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,079
um i don't know if you're aware of that

1144
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:04,790
i'm sorry synergy there's a gum in

1145
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:07,040
genetics called synergy

1146
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:09,200
so basically what that means is is that

1147
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,800
what we're seeing currently in small

1148
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:12,880
isolated villages uh say like the

1149
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:15,200
villages up the mountains and so forth

1150
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:17,440
uh when they all start having uh

1151
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,920
children together they're like their

1152
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,359
cousins will have children with the

1153
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:23,280
other cousins and so forth

1154
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:25,760
what happens is a simple synergy

1155
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:27,680
which basically means is that the

1156
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:30,079
genetics will get screwed up uh and

1157
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:31,920
you'll have children that will die at

1158
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:33,520
the age of 10 years old they just drop

1159
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:35,920
dead or they have lots of mental or

1160
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:38,400
physical disabilities or problems

1161
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,480
uh it's it's like what happens when you

1162
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,160
when your sister has a baby with a

1163
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,240
brother and then what happens is

1164
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,240
the genetic call becomes so small it

1165
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,240
starts causing lots of errors to the

1166
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:49,920
point where it implodes

1167
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,960
so what happens is mathematically uh the

1168
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:54,960
problems that we're seeing in currently

1169
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:57,599
in small little villages um will one day

1170
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:00,880
propagate out to towns and then cities

1171
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:02,800
and then countries and then it'll be

1172
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,680
global so the only way you can fix this

1173
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:07,280
problem is by

1174
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:09,359
going to another finding another group

1175
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:10,800
that's compatible

1176
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:12,560
and then you extract dna from them to

1177
00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:14,720
then insert into your own race so they

1178
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:17,599
extend the lifespan of that race

1179
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:19,040
that's how it works so the only reason

1180
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:21,040
why the other groups are coming the only

1181
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:23,359
reason why ufos are coming is for

1182
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:25,359
genetic extraction

1183
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,920
and that's it simple as that

1184
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:29,760
so what do you think they they want to

1185
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:36,230
they're extracting human dna

1186
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:38,000
they're incorporating certain uh

1187
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:39,839
characteristics of our race into their

1188
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:42,640
own because they realize that by um

1189
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,960
getting rid of uh emotions uh in their

1190
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,560
race a long time ago they've limited

1191
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:47,920
themselves there are certain uh

1192
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:50,560
advantages to at least some individuals

1193
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:51,920
in their

1194
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:56,160
having uh

1195
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:58,480
reactions to things like humans have

1196
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:00,240
yeah but in a nutshell in a nutshell

1197
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:02,560
it's a case of they need

1198
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:04,000
external dna

1199
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,200
in order to extend the lifespan of their

1200
00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:09,599
own race

1201
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,960
and the same thing

1202
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,319
that might be it as well but now they

1203
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:14,000
want they want certain characteristics

1204
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:15,680
that they they did not possess at this

1205
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:17,839
point yeah maybe as well

1206
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,839
that is a fundamental reason

1207
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:21,599
and the same thing will happen to us one

1208
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:22,480
day

1209
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:23,839
and we'll have to go out there and do

1210
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,040
exactly the same thing

1211
00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:29,200
uh what do you think about uh there are

1212
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:31,599
some theories that say dr michael

1213
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,560
masters thinks that ufos could be time

1214
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:36,720
travelers would that somehow fit in the

1215
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:39,200
realm of things with your thoughts

1216
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:41,040
well i don't know about that and all i

1217
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,200
know is is that uh

1218
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,359
to see is the type ones and are

1219
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:47,040
basically intercepting

1220
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:49,680
uh excel groups and interests um on a

1221
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,790
okay

1222
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:56,640
i know the aliens have time travel it's

1223
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:57,839
part it's possible that some of the

1224
00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:59,440
aliens that we see are are time

1225
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:01,599
travelers but um i don't think most of

1226
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:08,870
another another thought comes up a lot

1227
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,680
and that is that whatever it is that

1228
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:13,200
everybody is seeing

1229
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,560
uh there could be uh could be multiple

1230
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:18,480
theories so multiple things happening

1231
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:21,280
not just one particular thing so what

1232
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:23,119
have what's your thoughts on that

1233
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:25,680
patrick in general well from an i.t

1234
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,280
point of view uh from a logic point of

1235
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:29,119
view i'm seeing the same patterns

1236
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:30,560
occurring again and again all around the

1237
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:31,440
world

1238
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:34,240
uh the same c is set up the same way and

1239
00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:36,079
they all point in the same direction and

1240
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:38,319
they all um and even over skinwalker as

1241
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:39,040
well

1242
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:40,560
uh in fact there's images of them being

1243
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,720
deployed from skinwalker and then in the

1244
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,400
distance you see a smoke trail of one

1245
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:46,079
when how they've intercepted them and

1246
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:48,560
brought them down

1247
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:53,200
um i i had what i'd consider a very

1248
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,040
uh strange

1249
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,839
like poltergeist situation happen

1250
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:59,760
um and

1251
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:01,760
i saw it all firsthand

1252
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,560
now

1253
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:04,480
um i didn't see anything right in front

1254
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,839
of my eyes

1255
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,000
but what i did was uh you know i walked

1256
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,880
out into a hallway in a a bedroom door

1257
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:12,640
closet door slammed shut with all the

1258
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:13,839
windows down

1259
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:16,240
and the carpet was uh you had to drag

1260
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:17,599
the door across

1261
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:18,880
the carpet

1262
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:21,040
um so it was it wasn't a door that would

1263
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,720
shut for any reason at all you have to

1264
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:24,800
really force it to close

1265
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,640
and then a broom uh stood up um i didn't

1266
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:30,960
see it happen but the front door slammed

1267
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:32,640
in a broom that i had slid down the

1268
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:34,960
stairway earlier stood up against it and

1269
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:40,390
that was not the basement that was down

1270
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,200
in the

1271
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:43,520
front entryway but i had three three

1272
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:45,680
different things happen in a basket

1273
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:47,920
adhered itself to a floor cement floor

1274
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,760
and broke in half when i picked went to

1275
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,440
pick it up and it was freely sitting

1276
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:53,599
there so all these weird things

1277
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:54,560
happening

1278
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:58,160
um so i guess i'm gonna ask you

1279
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:01,520
how um how would that

1280
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,640
work

1281
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:04,400
you know so the type three is a dynamic

1282
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:05,359
network

1283
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:06,800
which means it can move around to its

1284
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,760
needs

1285
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,680
so in some cases well generally it stays

1286
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:11,280
in the same areas but it can also move

1287
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:12,160
around

1288
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:13,760
so if it needs to be in an area which

1289
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:15,920
isn't covered you'll temporarily go into

1290
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:18,400
that into that building uh and then when

1291
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:19,839
it's in that building it will do it will

1292
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:21,280
start emission it'll start causing

1293
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:22,319
emissions

1294
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,359
and then it will start causing

1295
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:25,119
diversions to hold you in place or put

1296
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:26,560
you in a certain area

1297
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,359
while that's occurring in your case it

1298
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:31,440
it's probably operating in the attic so

1299
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:33,839
it kept you uh it kept you busy

1300
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:36,400
downstairs while it was broadcasting

1301
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,160
so it's kind of like

1302
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,560
you think like it's keeping me away from

1303
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:42,720
an area or something like that is that

1304
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,079
it's an alignment with the inverse

1305
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:45,920
square law of radiation

1306
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:47,520
so basically the sphere itself is

1307
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:49,280
emitting radiation

1308
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:50,800
so it's keeping you at a distance which

1309
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:52,240
is keeping you safe

1310
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:53,839
so you actually think there was a a

1311
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:56,319
sphere somewhere in that in that

1312
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:57,440
property

1313
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:58,720
that's right

1314
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:00,560
yeah i never i never saw anything like

1315
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:03,760
that and um but i i do know one thing is

1316
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:06,079
that it really did happen and scared the

1317
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:07,520
heck out of me

1318
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:09,680
you haven't received the gym as well

1319
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,880
there's a video on twitter of it

1320
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,319
happening in a gym

1321
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:14,640
where uh obviously the the network had

1322
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:16,560
moved got into a gym

1323
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:17,920
and actually dragged the guy out of the

1324
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:20,400
way it dragged him away to the wall

1325
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:21,760
only and held him there for a few

1326
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:23,839
seconds while uh the broadcast was

1327
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,880
occurring

1328
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,720
and then once once the broadcast is done

1329
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,960
they let them go

1330
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:30,800
also it's not unusual for you not to see

1331
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:33,040
anything uh when ufos are around when

1332
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:34,559
they're seen they usually it's usually

1333
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:36,079
because they want to be seen

1334
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:37,920
they can cloak in several different ways

1335
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,160
they can control your mind if you just

1336
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:41,839
don't notice them they cannot they can

1337
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:43,680
physically cloak um

1338
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:46,000
and um they can appear as different

1339
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:48,720
objects like aircraft if they want to

1340
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:50,800
you see visual stuff isn't hard it's

1341
00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:52,880
really not hard it's just to redirect to

1342
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:55,839
photons and you can control photons with

1343
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:58,800
a gravitational uh wave or if you can

1344
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,800
redirect gravity around the shell

1345
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:02,880
you you redirect light so one could be

1346
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,160
literally in front of you and you won't

1347
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:06,240
see it

1348
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:07,920
well i have heard of people saying

1349
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:09,920
things like you know they'll they'll see

1350
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:12,480
it it'll blink out and then

1351
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:14,160
then it shows up in another place

1352
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:15,599
instantly and

1353
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:18,000
or it'll just blink out and it's gone

1354
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:19,520
you know not like they saw it shoot off

1355
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,319
they just say they just saw it blink out

1356
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,760
it's hard to say what's happening there

1357
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:25,359
it could be teleporting or it could be

1358
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:27,599
um shooting off so fast that you just

1359
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:30,079
can't see it with your eyes um

1360
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:31,839
but um there are several explanations

1361
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,240
for that but also uh with the spheres

1362
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:36,319
what people see is uh they'll be in a

1363
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,000
triangle and then they'll disappear and

1364
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:40,480
then they'll be in a different area

1365
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:42,000
now what's happening now you see when it

1366
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,440
drops into like a stealth mode it's

1367
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:45,440
redirecting the gravitational wave

1368
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,400
around it uh as a result it can't

1369
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:50,400
uh send or receive signals

1370
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,720
so what it does it once it's in this uh

1371
00:48:57,030 --> 00:48:54,960
cloaked state is is basically although

1372
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:57,040
it's invisible it can't send or receive

1373
00:49:04,230 --> 00:48:58,960
signals so it goes where it needs to go

1374
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:05,829
well um

1375
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:08,000
well this is all this is all really

1376
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:10,319
interesting and you know but here's

1377
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:11,839
another thing you know you're talking

1378
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:14,480
about spheres you did show like a disc

1379
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,960
with spheres around it but can we always

1380
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,480
think that

1381
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:20,400
whatever type of objects people talk

1382
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:22,160
about these great big huge triangles

1383
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,319
that people are seeing they talk about

1384
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:26,480
all different types of shapes

1385
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,760
that they're seeing

1386
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,440
how would this

1387
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:31,359
thing fit in are you just assuming that

1388
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:33,040
there has to be these little spheres

1389
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:34,559
around them

1390
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:37,040
well that's what appears to be the case

1391
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:39,440
in fact most images that i see

1392
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:41,280
if you uh if you

1393
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:44,800
increase the contrast you can see them

1394
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:47,119
including in all the late us navy images

1395
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:48,400
as well

1396
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:51,119
do we actually see them in there if you

1397
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:53,040
yeah but and are you the only one that

1398
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,430
who looks can see them

1399
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,520
i've seen a ufo launch uh smaller

1400
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:07,839
spheres myself so

1401
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:12,000
it's a pretty common phenomenon i'd say

1402
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:14,240
yeah i mean i have seen videos that look

1403
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:16,800
really interesting where there's

1404
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:19,760
uh spheres dropping out of

1405
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,839
you know like uh you'll see like a light

1406
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:24,000
and then spheres dropping down and stuff

1407
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:26,319
like that

1408
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:29,200
it is pretty interesting so i'm not sure

1409
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:30,720
if that's

1410
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:32,720
you know where

1411
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:35,760
scientifically you you seem like you

1412
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:38,240
have like the scientific thought on this

1413
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:42,240
but i mean is there any like

1414
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,720
paper for definitive

1415
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:46,800
uh measuring of of these things or

1416
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:48,079
anything like that

1417
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:49,520
how'd you be measuring you know what in

1418
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:51,200
particular what

1419
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,599
uh that these are around and their

1420
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:55,920
purpose for being there

1421
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:57,839
you can tell by the behavior patterns

1422
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,680
you see in reverse engineering you you

1423
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:01,200
what you do is you observe behavior

1424
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:02,160
plans

1425
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:03,920
uh and process

1426
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:05,680
and what you observe and as explained in

1427
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,800
my book is uh explains all the processes

1428
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:10,319
and behavior patterns

1429
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:11,680
and the same behavior patterns occur

1430
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:13,040
around the world

1431
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:16,400
almost every day

1432
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:17,760
yeah there's reason to believe that they

1433
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,760
do a lot of things and putting together

1434
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:21,599
information and do the paranormal

1435
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:24,079
activity like patrick is saying but um

1436
00:51:26,549 --> 00:51:25,359
the aliens are pretty secretive they're

1437
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,559
not gonna they're not gonna tell you

1438
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,800
what's going on we just have to uh infer

1439
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:30,480
what's going on from their behavior as

1440
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,359
he says

1441
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:33,440
and you see this is why you might notice

1442
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:35,200
that there's a huge mental illness

1443
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:37,520
problem in the paranormal community

1444
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:39,920
because or in the who do ghost hunting

1445
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,880
anyway

1446
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,559
it's because they they keep getting

1447
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:44,480
exposed to high-energy emissions which

1448
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:45,680
has a neural

1449
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,280
neurological effect

1450
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:48,960
well that an alien's

1451
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:50,720
aliens are powerful telepaths and they

1452
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,079
can also mess with your mind if they

1453
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,319
want to everything

1454
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,640
i think that the constant exposure to

1455
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:58,319
these signals cause all sorts of mental

1456
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:02,790
which is why people go crazy who live in

1457
00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:05,119
these hornets houses

1458
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:08,160
yeah yeah um i actually had uh

1459
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:09,760
unfortunately had something come up

1460
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:11,920
during the show and i'm going to this is

1461
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,240
going to be an hour show this evening so

1462
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:16,800
um i would like for you to if you would

1463
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:19,040
give out the uh your website how people

1464
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:22,400
can uh reach you and your book one more

1465
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:24,160
time if you would

1466
00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:25,359
yeah the book is called quantum

1467
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:27,839
paranormal a 21st century analysis or

1468
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:29,599
the paranormal phenomena it's free to

1469
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:33,119
read on amazon unlimited um and it's

1470
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,079
actually

1471
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,160
the only uh paranormal book in the world

1472
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:38,880
that gets uh technical specialist and

1473
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:40,960
military endorsements

1474
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:43,040
endorsements yes yes all right well

1475
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:45,040
thank you so much patrick

1476
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:46,800
yeah don't worry thank you very much all

1477
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:49,200
right and thank you also stephen

1478
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:51,520
all right thank you all right take care

1479
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:52,960
yeah bye

1480
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:54,880
all right everyone so we'll be back next

1481
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,800
week sorry i had to cut this short i

1482
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:58,720
have an issue i gotta take care of thank

1483
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,400
you so much we'll be back

1484
00:53:06,610 --> 00:53:02,720
next week with lee spiegel and remember

1485
00:53:15,930 --> 00:53:06,620
to keep your eyes to the sky